Once for all, OCD can make you feel like you enjoy things you don't want to?

[bobbyassustado]

(sorry about my english) ----- I mean.. I was reading this forum for a couple hours, and I've seen lots of people asking for help with things like "hocd", "pocd", etc etc...

And I realized that there's 2 kinds of people. The ones who have thoughts and HATE the thoughts. That's why they keep coming back.

And people who have thoughts and also feel that ENJOY whatever the thought is. BUT, these people always HATE ENJOYING the things... I'm with them. I have this. I don't know if I was clear enough... It's hard to explain... I think this second kind of people is the more devastated.. because we suffer Twice. Different of the ones who think about the horrible things against their will, We think against our will and also "enjoy" it.

And by having this second type, I feel that I truly am what I never was before OCD.... It's terrible to consider the fact that this is not even ocd because I like it..

So, I created this for us to chat about it... 'cause I'm really lost and scared right now. And probably lots of users here too. Feeling alone is the worst part.

[Guest mynameisbrian]

If you give me a specific example, I can give you advice on how to overcome it.

[gingerbreadgirl]

people who have thoughts and also feel that ENJOY whatever the thought is. BUT, these people always HATE ENJOYING the things...

Hmm, to me this doesn't sound at all like enjoyment - it sounds more like OCD is convincing you you're enjoying the thoughts, when actually you hate them (as you've stated above). it's just another stick for OCD to beat you with.

[bobbyassustado]

Hey... About my ocd thoughts, things got to a point where I over-analyze everything. I mean, the last one was Lips. All the sudden I can't look at lips anymore without feeling anxious and questioning why i'm anxious, and what is lips, why they are like that, and stuff. It's pretty annoying. Now imagine the same thing with 500 other things. And they always comes to sum.. they don't go away when new thoughts come along...

So, There's also Terrible thoughts too. Not about "normal things'', but about bad things. Things nobody should enjoy. Like sexual abuses.. violence... or things it's not on my nature to enjoy, like specific body parts of men. (i'm male - straight). I'm pretty sure the ocd find things I used to like and make me feel uncomfortable with it, like women's lips, and find things disgusting and totally wrong to like and make me enjoy it. It's horrible. I will never surrender to this thoughts, but it's already horrible only enjoying it...

For example, my ocd also makes me very perfectionist on doing things... but it doesn't bugs me as much as the other things I just said, because it's not immoral or even criminal to be perfectionist... To feel like a monster, and not like myself, that's something really bad :/

[bobbyassustado]

Hmm, to me this doesn't sound at all like enjoyment - it sounds more like OCD is convincing you you're enjoying the thoughts, when actually you hate them (as you've stated above). it's just another stick for OCD to beat you with.

Thanks! I hope so... It would be less disturbing for me if I was 100% sure that it's the OCD enjoying these things, not me

[gingerbreadgirl]

It would be less disturbing for me if I was 100% sure that it's the OCD

If I had a penny for every time someone said that on this form... I would be a very rich lady indeed!

OCD is the doubting disease... we have to move forwards despite the doubt which can feel crippling at times. Good luck x

[Guest mynameisbrian]

So, There's also Terrible thoughts too. Not about "normal things'', but about bad things. Things nobody should enjoy. Like sexual abuses.. violence... or things it's not on my nature to enjoy, like specific body parts of men. (i'm male - straight). I'm pretty sure the ocd find things I used to like and make me feel uncomfortable with it, like women's lips, and find things disgusting and totally wrong to like and make me enjoy it. It's horrible. I will never surrender to this thoughts, but it's already horrible only enjoying it...

Well.. the OCD just makes it confusing. Part of your body enjoys it, but OCD makes you over-analyze it and look too much into it. For example, if you were watching a movie and there was a rape scene, and it happened to turn you on, all it is is sexual association. You see a sexual situation, and it arouses your brain. It doesn't mean you enjoy rape or actually want it, just the sexual nature of the scene stimulated these parts of your brain. A normal person ignores these sexual feelings or doesn't care, because they know they aren't okay with rape. But unfortunately with OCD, it makes us feel terrible when we shouldn't.

Personally I always say to accept thoughts and fantasies, even if they're very messed up. So as long as you don't actually act on them, it's a harmless phase.

[taurean]

OCD can seek to turn our values on their heads and mske out we "enjoy"" thoughts and physical feelings that are repulsive to us.

If we connect with and believe these then a vicious cycle of stress and anxiety will develop.

Also, it looks like you have magical thinking too, which is an OCD trait.

[bobbyassustado]

If I had a penny for every time someone said that on this form... I would be a very rich lady indeed!

OCD is the doubting disease... we have to move forwards despite the doubt which can feel crippling at times. Good luck x

Well.. the OCD just makes it confusing. Part of your body enjoys it, but OCD makes you over-analyze it and look too much into it. For example, if you were watching a movie and there was a rape scene, and it happened to turn you on, all it is is sexual association. You see a sexual situation, and it arouses your brain. It doesn't mean you enjoy rape or actually want it, just the sexual nature of the scene stimulated these parts of your brain. A normal person ignores these sexual feelings or doesn't care, because they know they aren't okay with rape. But unfortunately with OCD, it makes us feel terrible when we shouldn't.

Personally I always say to accept thoughts and fantasies, even if they're very messed up. So as long as you don't actually act on them, it's a harmless phase.

OCD can seek to turn our values on their heads and mske out we "enjoy"" thoughts and physical feelings that are repulsive to us.

If we connect with and believe these then a vicious cycle of stress and anxiety will develop.

Also, it looks like you have magical thinking too, which is an OCD trait.

Thanks for yr comments friends.

taurean, what is magical thinking?

[Guest lizinlondon]

Sounds like OCD to me. Magical thinking is like when you think something bad will happen if you don't touch your shoes three times. It has no logic, like superstition.

Have you ever had CBT?

[bobbyassustado]

Sounds like OCD to me. Magical thinking is like when you think something bad will happen if you don't touch your shoes three times. It has no logic, like superstition.

Have you ever had CBT?

CBT, never... Well, I had this "if I don't touch this 3 times my family will die" years ago... but I don't see the connexion between what I said and this thing

[Guest lizinlondon]

Read the posts again the various posters have explained how this is OCD. Look into CBT. You can read.some books to start with like Breaking Free From OCD and if that doesn't help maybe.see a.therapist who specialises in CBT for OCD.