Saffie Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 So I saw my psychistrist and his team today. He told me that due to the nature of my ocd he by law has to report me to child protection services to do a risk assessment. I got very upset and he said its nothing to worry about, they do it for everyone and he knows there's no risk but it has to be done. Part of me thought why are you getting upset? You deserve it anyway because you gave your brother a kiss for sexual reasons, and I still feel like I did something normal ocd people would never do. I know by law they have to do this but its really horrible and distressing. Just needed to vent. Link to comment
Eric Dave Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hi. Sorry to hear that. Hope you'll be ok ! Link to comment
Saffie Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Thanks. Its a stupid law. That kind of hysteria does more harm than good. Imagine if someone with real paedophilic feelings asked for help, theyd be reported. How does that help anyone? Probably causes more offences overall. They wouldn't report someone to the police for harm ocd, but as soon as the word child is mentioned everyone gets hysterical. Link to comment
Guest legend Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 it isnt law , he is a **** pysch. or have we fallen into the **** hands of social services again !! if you arent a risk , why then do you need a risk assesment !! excuse my language , thats rollox Link to comment
Guest Tricia Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 is it really the law, have you checked? I have friends with this symptom who have not experienced this. Not all psychiatrists are really that knowledgeable over this symptom if OCD. Link to comment
Guest Tricia Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sorry, Legend, we sent our messages at the same time. Looks as though we are right then! Link to comment
Caramoole Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I agree that it's not the Law. But there is another thing here Saffie.....Do you realise that in and among the huge doubt and confusion you are actually acknowledging that your worries are caused by OCD and that's progress Link to comment
Guest legend Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 is it really the law, have you checked? I have friends with this symptom who have not experienced this. Not all psychiatrists are really that knowledgeable over this symptom if OCD. from what i "know" i believe it might be down to social services who have the last say , however i maybe wrong That aside , its absolutely no necessity what so ever , in my opinion. Link to comment
Guest Tricia Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Legend, I know Lee Baer is American, but certainly he has said that a psychiatrist/psychologist has discretion and only ever involves other agencies when they are very concerned that a patient is a risk to others. That clearly does not occur with OCD and I thought the same applied in this country. Link to comment
Guest legend Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Legend, I know Lee Baer is American, but certainly he has said that a psychiatrist/psychologist has discretion and only ever involves other agencies when they are very concerned that a patient is a risk to others. That clearly does not occur with OCD and I thought the same applied in this country. maybe . still shouldnt be happening "unless" there is a real risk involved , which at times could apply to certain ocd situations . Link to comment
Caramoole Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 You are right Tricia... organisations should be informed where it is considered there is a real risk to either a patient or others. The same is true of other issues like harm, violence etc. The problem comes with the term "Real Risk". Clearly the protection of others is vital where there's a real risk, no-one could argue with that. Sadly though, even among qualified professionals there is confusion surrounding what someone says and what is or isn't a real risk. Link to comment
PolarBear Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 And we wonder why people with certain types of OCD are loathe to seek help. Link to comment
Saffie Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah I asked and they all said its the law in all cases, but im not sure it is. Part of me thinks I am no risk so its unnecessary and the other patt thinks I did something bad so its justified. It did happen years ago when I was first hospitalised at 18, the social services did a risk assessment as I was living with minors, and I was angry. But never since then and ive been in hospital three times since. He says he has a duty to report any worries about a childs welfare whether its ocd or not. He explained that its worth it because for every 100 people they assess, they will catch the 1 who may be harming someone. Ugh. Dont want it on my record but no choice apparently. Link to comment
battlethrough Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Thats a bit ****,dont lose heart though hun,youll be assessed,you wont beleave me but without a dought they will see your no danger to anyone,i am shocked this is the approach there takeing but so be it,thats the way its happening After they have assesed you hopefully they can start working with the ocd xx Link to comment
Guest lizinlondon Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hope it goes well for you if at all possible. Good luck! Link to comment
Saffie Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Just checked with another nurse apparently its a new law so thats why Link to comment
Guest legend Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah I asked and they all said its the law in all cases, but im not sure it is. Part of me thinks I am no risk so its unnecessary and the other patt thinks I did something bad so its justified. It did happen years ago when I was first hospitalised at 18, the social services did a risk assessment as I was living with minors, and I was angry. But never since then and ive been in hospital three times since. He says he has a duty to report any worries about a childs welfare whether its ocd or not. He explained that its worth it because for every 100 people they assess, they will catch the 1 who may be harming someone. Ugh. Dont want it on my record but no choice apparently. There is a choice actually. its unecessary and needless , and one has to question the knowledge of all those involved Link to comment
Guest legend Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Just checked with another nurse apparently its a new law so thats why so all those with these types of ocd worrys , now have to be risk assessed ? I disagree and i still say thats total rollox Link to comment
Guest legend Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 In fact id say get those involved perhaps to read this risk assessment on ocd by top ocd proffessionals http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/15/5/332.full Link to comment
Saffie Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah he doesn't believe there is risk but they are all adamant it has to be done now due to new legislation. I just hope it doesnt stop more people getting help because I dont want to disclose anything further to them now. Link to comment
Guest legend Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah he doesn't believe there is risk but they are all adamant it has to be done now due to new legislation. I just hope it doesnt stop more people getting help because I dont want to disclose anything further to them now. I have concerns about this new law saffie , im going to raise this with ashley . Seems very odd to me Link to comment
Saffie Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ok. I am in Ireland though at the minute I forgot to say. It might not be the case in UK Link to comment
Ashley Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 So I saw my psychistrist and his team today. He told me that due to the nature of my ocd he by law has to report me to child protection services to do a risk assessment. I got very upset and he said its nothing to worry about, they do it for everyone and he knows there's no risk but it has to be done. Part of me thought why are you getting upset? You deserve it anyway because you gave your brother a kiss for sexual reasons, and I still feel like I did something normal ocd people would never do. I know by law they have to do this but its really horrible and distressing. Just needed to vent. It's not a new law (to my knowledge). It may be an internal policy (which I would aim to get them to change), but it is not law, and any reputable therapist that understands OCD would not make such disclosures. I am currently dealing with another case along the same lines, so I would very much like to follow this up with your psychiatrist to ensure it does not happen to anyone else, can you PM me his details please Saffie? When I contact him I would do so without disclosing your details. Link to comment
Ashley Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sorry not sure on Irish law, but I am still happy to write to the psychiatrist to highlight the problems such action causes someone with OCD. Link to comment
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