Guest legend Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 how it works re app application http://apps.nhs.uk/review-process/ Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Thanks Legend There's a procedure for flagging up an app for their attention - perhaps on the basis that it recommends halting all medical contact. I feel this could be particularly dangerous for patients whose anxiety forms part of a larger condition - eg. BPD, or even something such as a thyroid problem. Cutting off GP contact could prevent such a person from receiving the right treatment. Edited April 21, 2014 by gingerbreadgirl Link to comment
Guest legend Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 and medications as well . Depends what the app says tho of course !! Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I've flagged it up with the app library. Up to them I suppose. Link to comment
Guest legend Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) When you go into the apps on itunes, the description is know different to what we already know !! The "only" cure an email i received from a "source" says However, the Linden Method is neither 'recommended' nor 'endorsed' by NHSChoices. Edited April 21, 2014 by legend Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Possibly - but the threat of being accused of false advertising bears no weight, considering he is already on the ASA's list of non-compliant advertisers and he has still not changed. Edited April 21, 2014 by gingerbreadgirl Link to comment
Guest legend Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) yep. X Edited April 21, 2014 by legend Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Despite this, I do believe that at some point he will be the creator of his own demise, due to the tone he takes with anybody who disagrees with him. Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I sincerely hope so - he has made another legal threat on amazon this morning. There is evidence of multiple legal threats having been made against individuals and charities who criticise the Linden Method. If I was thinking of investing in this product, I would be concerned about a mental health organisation behaving in this fashion. Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 When you go into the apps on itunes, the description is know different to what we already know !! The "only" cure an email i received from a "source" says However, the Linden Method is neither 'recommended' nor 'endorsed' by NHS Choices. The whole email from the NHS has been posted in the amazon thread above. It makes for interesting reading. Charles however has so far not responded -in fact he is now refusing to respond to any of the fair and sensible questions put to him. Link to comment
Guest legend Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 yep, the chap sent me it x Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 His behaviour on Amazon is absolutely disgraceful in my opinion! Link to comment
Caramoole Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 My Mother's phrases are always ringing in my ears these days Beware your chickens tend to come home to roost What goes round, comes round These things tend to come back and bite you on the bum when you least expect it You'll dig yourself deeper into that hole Arrogance will be your downfall Thou protesteth too much Caramoole Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I really hope your mother is right on this one Paul salkovskis has put on Twitter that he's currently writing an article on linden. should make for interesting reading. Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 article by Paul salkovskis here: http://psychonoclast.wordpress.com/2014/04/25/the-linden-method-review-originally-published-in-anxious-times-in-20056/ Link to comment
Ashley Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 should make for interesting reading. I have seen the draft, and it does Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I know he's going to be doing a new one at one point on more recent events - is this the one you've read? V much looking forward to reading that! Link to comment
Guest paramoregirl Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I was reading this thread with some interest as I have never heard of the linden method so I looked into it. Boy was I in for a shock. On the face of it the linden method looks life changing (as well as bank balance changing ). I thought maybe this is worth a go. But then I looked into it more and read lots of the responses on amazon and I was so shocked. The people were so aggressive when people said it didn't work for them. I was shocked. Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I looked into it more and read lots of the responses on amazon and I was so shocked. The people were so aggressive when people said it didn't work for them. I was shocked. I agree, it is absolutely shocking - and a real own goal, I suspect. Link to comment
Guest fiatver Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) I'm concerned about all the people who could be tempted into non-regulated forms of "treatment". I tried hypnosis when I was desperate for help and not only it didn't work, it made things worse. Anxiety can make people trusting and vulnerable and there are loads of treatments, promises and sometimes scams out there promising to get rid of all our problems in the blink of an eye and with no effort. I think it's very important that we reach people in need of help with their anxiety disorders and direct them towards evidence based therapies (CBT, ERP, ACT). Edited April 26, 2014 by Caramoole Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I totally agree. £100+ is a lot of money, especially for some people who suffer so severely that they are unable to work or need to claim benefits and so on. I find it outrageous that when people dare to criticise his method he responds with hostile language and threats of legal action. I am following the Amazon thread with increasing disbelief. My only hope is that his language and tone allows vulnerable people to see the truth about this method and perhaps consider alternatives. Link to comment
Caramoole Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I am following the Amazon thread with increasing disbelief Yes, it is incredulous, isn't it? It wouldn't surprise me if eventually one of those contributors on that site became so angered that they take it a step further and this whole debate became much more public than what appeared to start simply as a dissatisfied Amazon review. To someone who is simply an observer, this protracted defence looks set to potentially cause far, far more damage to the product than a simple negative review would. It's like a snowball hurtling down a mountain and at some point is likely to crash. Link to comment
daisy Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I have never heard of the Linden Method and still havn't looked it up,i won't be giving it a go though as it sounds terrible. Can anyone tell me how i get to see what is being written about it on Amazon please x Link to comment
Hal Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Can anyone tell me how i get to see what is being written about it on Amazon please x Here's the link daisy :original: from earlier in the thread. Link to comment
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