Guest Phil10 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) See here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47201923 An ocd sufferers worst nightmare this. Edited February 11, 2019 by Phil10 Link to comment
taurean Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Common sense needs to rule the issue of washing hands. Hardly common sense not to wash them. I wash mine regularly but have to use a moisturising handwash not soap as my hands otherwise get very dry. And I don't use germ killing handwash because I don't see any need. Link to comment
BelAnna Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 That's just grim. Handwashing is one of the man ways of preventing the spread of infection and I hate it when people are proud of being unhygienic. Link to comment
daja Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, taurean said: I wash mine regularly but have to use a moisturising handwash not soap as my hands otherwise get very dry. When I use my Mum’s handwash despite rinsing my hands the perfume lingers for so long. Link to comment
LeopardM Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I have contamination ocd so I could be upset by this but I'm not. Why? He's clearly joking. Some might not find it funny, but he's not being serious. If you read the article he's a graduate of Princeton and Harvard - smart enough not to really believe that if you can't see something it doesn't exist. I know the level of handwashing he (jokingly) talks about isn't the right one, but nor is what my OCD tells me to do. I'm not there yet, but I'm working to get back to something like what taurean describes. Link to comment
Orwell1984 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Phil10 said: See here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47201923 An ocd sufferers worst nightmare this. I think he was exaggerating. If he didn't wash his hands, I'm sure he would have been pulled up by his colleagues and friends over the look and smell. Yuck. Or he would have gotten salmonella or hepatitis by now He's a major attention seeker. Imagine becoming famous on international news because you professed to being a disgusting individual. Not because of Princeton etc. Ugh what a stupid idiot Edited February 12, 2019 by Orwell1984 Link to comment
taurean Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, daja said: When I use my Mum’s handwash despite rinsing my hands the perfume lingers for so long. It would. I use Simple mousturising handwash - no perfume, just simple Link to comment
daja Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I will try and get some Roy. Link to comment
PolarBear Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Actually, not only do I think this guy is joking, but he is also making fun of people with contamination OCD. Think about it. Link to comment
dksea Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Phil10 said: An ocd sufferers worst nightmare this. Naw, i mean it sounds disgusting but I can think of much worse nightmares. Link to comment
BelAnna Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Hm well I did have an old (very intelligent) friend who went to my old uni (top 10 in UK) who didn't wash her hands apart from in the shower so some people really don't wash their hands! Link to comment
Orwell1984 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, BelAnna said: Hm well I did have an old (very intelligent) friend who went to my old uni (top 10 in UK) who didn't wash her hands apart from in the shower so some people really don't wash their hands! Link to comment
taurean Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) I think we can draw a line under this topic now. Essentially, what is normal is what sensible informed risk-averse people do I think. And they wash their hands - and of course their body too - in a hygienic way. A friend of mine was averse to regular bathing, meaning there was often an unpleasant whiff to him . What turned him around was getting into a meaningful relationship with a lovely young lady (my ex-girlfriend) whom he went on to marry and they are still happily together . So sensible hygienic body washing can also help you to keep your partner, and your friends Edited February 12, 2019 by taurean Link to comment
felix4 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, taurean said: I think we can draw a line under this topic now. The topic was only started yesterday, & others not on here all the time might want to have a say. Link to comment
felix4 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, taurean said: A friend of mine was averse to regular bathing, meaning there was often an unpleasant whiff to him . What turned him around was getting into a meaningful relationship with a lovely young lady (my ex-girlfriend) whom he went on to marry and they are still happily together . So sensible hygienic body washing can also help you to keep your partner, and your friends How do you turn someone around though? I was in a long-term relationship, but my then girlfriend seem to let herself go with regards to personal hygiene as time went on. I felt that this was not the person I originally got into a relationship with, and I could hardly broach the subject. Link to comment
taurean Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, felix4 said: How do you turn someone around though? I was in a long-term relationship, but my then girlfriend seem to let herself go with regards to personal hygiene as time went on. I felt that this was not the person I originally got into a relationship with, and I could hardly broach the subject. I suppose one party has to be willing to speak up, and the other one to be willing to make the necessary change. His friends were surprised, but very pleased Link to comment
taurean Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, felix4 said: The topic was only started yesterday, & others not on here all the time might want to have a say. True enough. But I think the genie has been stuffed back into the bottle, and more "debate" could weaken that beneficial result. At work we were taught that when a deal has been struck bring the meeting to a close and withdraw. Carrying on talking might inadvertently threaten the deal and result in it being withdrawn Link to comment
Angst Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Germ theory in the late 19 century informs this debate. Before this the theory was that bad air caused disease. The research and technology first proved that bad water caused death in parts of London. It took time for germ theory to become acceptable throughout the world. Clear water and good sanitation were the key. Just look at the death statistics globally related to sanitation. The guy on Fox News is an idiot and anti science. Before germ theory people protected themselves from bad smells. Just look at historical records of the Great Plague. OCD in the past was probably related to smells. Link to comment
Orwell1984 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Angst said: The guy on Fox News is an idiot and anti science. I feel sorry for his life partner if he has one Link to comment
orange Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I have contamination OCD and found this reassuring. Look he barely washes his hands and he's okay! Well, something like that. I notice people who take cans and bottles back for recycling rummage in garbage cans and appear to survive it. Today a man was picking up cigarette butts off the wet, dirty street and he's older and still fine. Not to recommend any of these behaviours but they help me counteract some of my contamination fears. I'm still going to wash my hands but hopefully a normal amount, at least less than I do now. Link to comment
dksea Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, orange said: I have contamination OCD and found this reassuring. Look he barely washes his hands and he's okay! This is a great attitude to take! 17 minutes ago, orange said: I'm still going to wash my hands but hopefully a normal amount, at least less than I do now. Definitely the right thing to do, set a goal of washing a "normal" amount and work towards that, starting with at least reducing the amount you do now. One step at a time towards a reasonable goal! Link to comment
orange Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Thank you dksea! I'm still washing them too much but seeing what other people do does help. Link to comment
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