Guest OCDhavenobrain Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) "I think there's been a bit of a misunderstanding here guys... I don't think ocdhaveno was accusing you of having an arson problem angst, I think he was trying to not to give you any reassurance about it albeit a bit clumsily. " What I was trying to do was to say that I wasn't interested in engaging in an individual obsession. Also with "arson", I was trying to highlight what you fear the most. I should just have written that I wasn't interested in discussing individual obsessions. Because of the reason that we are in a thread which is about the general. So I do guess that Gingerbread was right. Because right now it is too anxiety-provoking for you to accept the thought of you being a possible arson. Ultimately you have to admit to the thought of you being a possible arson (and admitting to you being one already is an effective but painful way of overcoming OCD), it being a possibility and it won't even bother you when you are recovered. But I do realize that this thought is scaring you right now and it got too much for you to handle. So not responding would be the right thing of me to do. However, I am not agreeing with trying to take individual members down so of that reason I will not involve myself any further. Good luck. Now I will stop derailing a perfectly fine thread. Edited May 19, 2019 by OCDhavenobrain Link to comment
Angst Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 No. Correctly wrong. Read my posts. Link to comment
Angst Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) No completely wrong. Not a Freudian slip in my last post in case you are looking for explanations. Edited May 19, 2019 by Angst Link to comment
taurean Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Time to let it be and return to the benefits of the thread, folks. Link to comment
Angst Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 13:08, Angst said: Surely in order not to engage with the thoughts we need to classify them as OCD thoughts in the first place. That is why one of the biggest reassurances to be found on the site is that the person has OCD and that their thought processes in particular instances are irrational Link to comment
Angst Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 20:15, Angst said: What about ‘I must go back home on check that the iron is off’. If I ‘embrace’ the thought then I go back to check. Link to comment
Angst Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Angst said: As I indicated in a previous post, why assume that one approach, under the CBT umbrella, suits all? It is not only the receiver of therapy who needs cognitive flexibility it is also the therapist. Link to comment
Angst Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 The above three posts are a summation of my contribution to the debate on this thread until today’s conflict. Link to comment
Angst Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Unusually in arguing a case I present my evidence in advance. I have been trolled by a troll. Link to comment
gingerbreadgirl Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I honestly don't think anyone has been doing any trolling here, just sometimes things get miscommunicated especially with it being in writing. We're all just trying to help each other at the end of the day. Link to comment
taurean Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Yes, havenobrain regularly contributes helpful observations. Just a poor decision which we all make from time to time. Link to comment
paradoxer Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, gingerbreadgirl said: I know your opinion you've told me many times I see you see it GBG, hence the smile, but he's being complimentary. Incidentally, for the sake of candor, I wrote the above, and decided not to post it, but due to the quirks of the site, here it is (I can delete my post, but not the GBG quote). Oh, well, Edited May 20, 2019 by paradoxer Link to comment
Guest OCDhavenobrain Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) I find this list, as I have said before, to be fantastic. If I had to give a tip which covers many of the points but is easier to follow and which sometimes or pretty often needs to be followed then it would be to NOT talk about OCD and do not think about OCD. The sufferer needs enough knowledge but many people do not just go to the top of the mountain when it comes to getting knowledge, they (of different reasons) get stuck in this mode. My theory is that it is such a great relief to finally understand OCD but getting relief (certainty) is also what we are wanting in general. Test yourself on how many times you think about OCD in a day, I bet you think about it to an absurd amount. For once it is OK to count. And it is important not to identify oneself with the disorder, you are more than OCD. Edited May 21, 2019 by OCDhavenobrain Link to comment
taurean Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Good stuff havenobrain. People need to take this on board. Stopping unhelpful behaviours ingrained over time is difficult but not impossible. Link to comment
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