Will God understand if I stopped thinking about religion?

[Moser]

There are people who believe that we are in a simulation system that it is controlled by an evil God (if i am right) and that we are stuck in reincarnation unless we wake up and escape the system.

I think there are many theories. Some involve mix of them. Someone who is named Tom Montalk has (i think) taken almost every theory and started using it like a piece of puzzle. He claims that we need to wake up in order to escape the matrix.

There are people who uses lsd and mushrooms (Drugs) and claim to have seen strange things and that the strange things are the reality (if i am right).

There are people who claim to have experienced unexplained events, like suddenly, seeing people appearing out of nowhere,  losing items when they fall to the ground as if they vanished. It is suspected that these could be glitches in the simulation system.

There are other people who talk about having memories from previous lives, deja vu and some people who see a shadowy figure.

I am scared and worried. All these kill my faith to Jesus. I worry that I may be born again into a new life while having memories of the previous one and wondering what have happened to my loved ones.

I worry that (besides simulation) that when we die, we may be in a total dark place while having some conscience.

What ifs.

[iamwesker]

Stop researching and feeding your OCD. If I said I believe in mermaids you wouldn't believe me and you would disagree. Beliefs are not fact

[Moser]

I was thinking about a possible coincidence that was about the phrase "vre oust sto diaolo" (greek) (oh go to devil (hell)) As I'was replaying it in my mind, there was a'woman talking outside. she said something like "bla bla bla bla ??o  ?ao?o"

 

i did not hear her words clearly but she said something that kinda sounded like "diaolo" (devil). I did not heard the word clearly but it rhymed with it. What if she said that word?

 

 

 

[Moser]

Some coincidences happened that I worry that they may be bad signs from Gods or the programers of the simulation system (if we are in one) because I took photos of a place in which about 5-15 minutes before, a man may have vanished and it may have been a glitch in the system, even though there are more than 2-3 other explanations about it.

 

For example: (some of the coincidences)

 

I was having my eyes closed while in bed. I was thinking about my worry and some unrelated stuff. I started losing control of my thoughts. I cant remember what I was thinking but I thought of a kinda rare phrase that was "βρε ουστ στο διαολο" ("vre oust sto diaolo") Its greek that can be roughly translated as "oh go to devil" (hell) . Almost one second later, I  think I heard my brother from his room saying that rare phrase while playing online. Its a phrase that we never use. I did not hear his words clearly but that phrase in my language has kinda a specific melody and it sounded as if my brother said something with the same melody. How I thought that rare phrase and then, almost after a second I probably heard my brother saying it?

 

 One other time, while thinking about that phrase, "vre oust sto diaolo" I randomly heard a woman from outside saying something that sounded like the last syllable of the word "diaolo" (devil).  I did not hear her words clearly but I was thinking the phrase "vre oust sto diaolo" (oh go to devil) and on the same time I heard the woman saying something that sounded like -aolo or -ao?o. she may have said the same word when I was thinking it! What if she really said the same word? is everything a coincidence?

 

My ocd is telling me that maybe these synchronicities are bad signs from Gods or the programers to tell me about the photos.

[Moser]

my brother wanted to tell me something and he was like

 

"hey. new episodes are coming....."

 

when i heard the word "episodes" automatically a thought popped up in my head and was like "what if he is talking about the new episodes of Lupin anime part 6? oh it will be a scary coincidence"

 

and he continued " from Lupin part 2 (the french series with actors).

 

 

it was probably a coincidence but still, i worry for that random guessing thought. it was probably my thought but what if was send by Gods?

[PolarBear]

Look, bud, it's not doing you any good to be posting here every time you experience a coincidence. We won't discuss them, other than to tell you they're just coincidences, which we won't do for long.

My advice to you is forget about the coincidences and stop going to Reddit and wherever else you go. You don't need to know what other people's misguided opinions are.

[Handy]

Coincidences must occur immediately otherwise can be attributed to intervening forces. 

[seb79]

Coincidences only happen when your looking for them. Move in, do something else with your time

[Moser]

 

 

I have ocd, I am mentally ill, I have scrupulosity, God or Gods know it, They know how much I suffer every day and if in case we are in a simulation, They probably know that I was not trying to expose anything. Would They punish a mentally ill man? the photos were taken in order to calm down my ocd worry and i was not looking for evidence. Probably the man did not vanish because there are more than about  2-3 ways/buildings he may have gone to. Coincidences kept bugging me in the past for an other worry. Besides, why Gods would want to send bad signs through coincidences?

 

 

all that thinking calms me down. but then again, i am like what about the coincidences? what if i am missing something?

[Caramoole]

Yes Moser, you are mentally Illl at the moment & need some urgent professional help.  Please seek some emergency intervention or ask your Dad to help you with this

[Moser]

intrusive thoughts: Maybe the man you saw really vanished and maybe it was a glitch in the simulation system. Even though you just wanted the place in your photos in order to find buildings/ways he may have gone, maybe Gods or the programers considered that you are trying to expose the system and you should have minded your business. Maybe they punished you in a very harsh way and maybe They/they are sending you bad signs through coincidences in order for them/Them not to be expose but still give you the message. Even though, there are more than 2-3 ways/buildings where the man may have gone to, maybe he vanished. Maybe if you were 10-15 seconds earlier, you would have seen that man vanishing in front of you. Theree is an explanation for every coincidence in order for them to be just coincidences but YOU CANT CONFIRM IT. What if you are punished?

[Moser]

IS EVERYTHING A COINCIDENCE?

 The coincidences:

-  1) I was going to enter a covid vaccination topic while thinking that I may read some phrases of excitement in the comments because I remembered reading phrases of excitement in an older topic.Indeed, someone wrote one of the phrases that I assumed that I may read in the newer topic. Automatically, this guess-coincidence (though expected) triggered a random thought (that I had many times in the past but for other reasons). That thought was about seeing in the username/signature of the one who posted that phrase, a word related to simulation and that it may be a bad sign from Gods or the programers. I checked the username/signature but there was no relation. I scrolled down a few comments and someone else had posted a link of a video game dlc that had the word "simulator" in its title. He/she posted it in order to make fun of people that are getting excited about vaccination. That game's dlc was making fun of covid stuff.

-  2) One other day, I saw in the super market a man that maybe kinda looked like the character from the video game (from the 1st coincidence) Not only that, but both were wearing circular gray hats. The video game character was wearing a typical gray, circular hat and the man in the market was wearing a gray bucket hat.

-  3) One other day, I was thinking about the man in the market a lot and the connectiong between the hats. I started thinking stuff like "why that man had to wear that hat?(bucket hat), do people wear these hats frequently?" and some other stuff related to it. Some seconds later, I saw in a non-busy street a man who looked like a cheap traveller, wearing a black circular feathered hat. I think it was the first tiime I was seeing that hat in my city. It was just weird that I saw him randomly in a non-busy street while thinking about a hat.

-    4)I was having my eyes closed while in bed. I was thinking about my worry and some unrelated stuff. I started losing control of my thoughts. I cant remember what I was thinking but I thought of a kinda rare phrase that was "βρε ουστ στο διαολο" ("vre oust sto diaolo") Its greek that can be roughly translated as "oh go to devil" (hell) . Almost one second later, I  think I heard my brother from his room saying that rare phrase while playing online. Its a phrase that we never use. I did not hear his words clearly but that phrase in my language has kinda a specific melody and it sounded as if my brother said something with the same melody. How I thought that rare phrase and then, almost after a second I probably heard my brother saying it?

-   5) One other time, I was in my bed with eyes closed and htinking for my ocd worry and non-related stuff. I started losing control of my thoughts due to tiredness. I cant remember what I was thinking but for some reason, I ended up thinking the phrase "βρε ουστ στο διαολο" ("vre oust sto diaolo") (greek) which can be translated like "oh go to devil" (hell). Almost a second later, I think I heard my brother saying that phrase while playing a game online. I did not heard his words clearly but it sounded like the melody of that phrase. Its a phrase we never use. What if i was thinking about my ocd worry when this happened? I cant remember what I was thinking but probably I was thinking something unrelated. But what if I was not? Did I heard wrong? Did my brother said it twice and the first time I just got the "phrase" and his voice got deleted due to  being sleepy?

 -   6)One other time, while thinking about that phrase, "vre oust sto diaolo" I randomly heard a woman from outside saying something that sounded like the last syllable of the word "diaolo" (devil).  I did not hear her words clearly but I was thinking the phrase "vre oust sto diaolo" (oh go to devil) and on the same time I heard the woman saying something that sounded like -aolo or -ao?o. she may have said the same word when I was thinking it!

So, do I need to worry and start believing that maybe we are in a simulation, maybe a man vanished, maybe it was a glitch, maybe I angered Gods or the programers by taking photos of the place (even though there was not any glitch in them), maybe They/they punished me for the photos and maybe are sending me bad signs through coincidences?

[BelAnna]

Hi Moser,

I'm sorry you're feeling so ill. How does the health system work in your country? Are there any phone lines for people in mental health crisis? Would you be able to see a private Psychologist where you are at the moment rather than waiting to get back to your hometown because it sounds like you're spiralling and just becoming more ill. 

The only way to get out of this cycle of fear is to seek treatment.

 

Edited June 16, 2021 by BelAnna

[Moser]

sometimes I just believe that a psychiatrist wont help : /

 

i am in my hometown but it is not my base city. i visited a psychiatrist in the past who told me that I better find a psychiatrist who knows cbt.

 

well, there is a psychologist who claims to know cbt but when I asked the psychiatrist about her, for some reason I cant remember or understood what he said. he kinda looked negative.

 

perhaps he wanted me to find a PSYCHIATRIST who knows cbt?

 

 

Edited June 16, 2021 by Moser

[BelAnna]

48 minutes ago, Moser said:

sometimes I just believe that a psychiatrist wont help : /

 

i am in my hometown but it is not my base city. i visited a psychiatrist in the past who told me that I better find a psychiatrist who knows cbt.

 

well, there is a psychologist who claims to know cbt but when I asked the psychiatrist about her, for some reason I cant remember or understood what he said. he kinda looked negative.

 

perhaps he wanted me to find a PSYCHIATRIST who knows cbt?

 

 

Oh okay then so it might be best to look for a Psychiatrist in your hometown who specialises in CBT if this an option and try to get an appointment for this week or for as soon as possible. 

[Moser]

whats your ocd about?

[BelAnna]

2 hours ago, Moser said:

whats your ocd about?

Hi Moser,

I have quite a few different OCD themes varying from contamination OCD about viruses; to responsibility fears and checking that no harm will come to loved ones (including my dog- which I realise is silly!) where I do things like compulsively look for sharp or dangerous objects or substances; fear of saying something terrible; scrupulosity/religiosity based OCD thoughts about good/evil (which I can't discuss because it triggers my OCD too much!); 'magical contamination' thoughts about diseases and magical thinking.

It's really hard and I know your symptoms are too! 

I'm seeing a Clinical Psychologist for CBT over a zoom-type platform and am finding it really helpful so hopefully you will find the same thing.  

Edited June 16, 2021 by BelAnna

[Moser]

its funny how sometimes our ocd always seems more logical/dangerous/real than then the ocd of others

[BelAnna]

Yeah, that's true but actually I've also found as my OCD themes have changed over the years that I always think my current themes are the most worrying!

[Moser]

i have found some explanation about these coincidences but are they enough?

 

1) I was thinking that I may read some specific phrases of excitement in the comments section of a non-related topic. I remembered reading them in an older topic. So, I assumed that I may read them in the newer one too. Indeed, someone had written one of the phrases that I assumed I may read. Due to this small coincidence-guess (even though it was kinda expected), I got a worrying thought that a bigger coincidence may happen. Many times in the past, when small coincidences were happening, I automatically was worrying that a bigger one may happen and that it may be related to my ocd worry as a possible bad sign. So, I worried that if I check the username or the signature of the one who wrote the guessed phrase, I may see a word related to simulation. Kinda like "we live in a simulation" or "matrix" or "Neo". I checked the username and there was no relation. I scrolled down a few comments and someone else had posted a link of a game that had the word "simulator" in its title. I think one of the next days, I asked the one who posted the link why he posted it. He told me that he wanted to make fun of the people who get excited.

 

explanation: Its like a domino. the expected guess kinda triggered an automatical thought that I had many times in the past, that I may see something related to my ocd. Thats why I assumed that i may read something related to simulation in the username or the signature of the one who wrote the guessed prhase. i did not. the word simulator was written by an other person and was found in a game link that he posted in order to use the game to make fun of people in that topic. i checked his history and saw that he used to put random links like memes in order to make fun of that topics.

2) 2 more small coincidences happened related to the 1) coincidence. No need to say what. I was thinking about the newer coincidence a lot. Like an obsession. I was thinking about it while clicking on a random second of a youtube video that I had opened. I was thinking about the coincidence and about 5-10 seconds after the click, there was a quote saying "thats not a good sign"

 

explanation: if 1) is a coincidences, then this too is a coincidence. besides, almost everyday, almost every minute i am thinking about the coincidences. randomly there was a quote that was saying "thats not a good sign". since i am thinking about coincidences it is not impossible for this synchronicity. It is just that of all 18 minutes of the video, I randomly clicked on that part? thats what worries me but still it is not impossible.

 

3) Ι was in my bed with my eyes closed and thinking about my ocd worry and non-related stuff also. I started feeling tired and I started losing control of my thoughts but I did not fell asleep. Suddenly, I cant remember what I was thinking but I ended up thinking a phrase that can be transalated as "oh go to devil". About 1 second later, I probably heard my brother saying that phrase from his room, while playing an online game. I did not hear his words clearly but the melody sounded as if he was saying "oh go to devil". What if I was thinking about signs or my ocd worry when these synchronicity happened? (if my brother said that phrase)

 

explanation: maybe my brother said the phrase twice. The first time, I heard the phrase but due to being sleepy, my memory deleted his voice on an instant and kept only the phrase as a thought. then, my brother repeated it again.

 

or maybe my brother said something that sounded like that phrase but he said something diffferent. maybe he said something gibberish. kinda like " oh ogetefil" instead of "oh go to devil".  I think he talks gibberish many times when he plays.

 

 

4) I was thinking about that coincidence-phrase "oh go to devil" and I kinda was replaying it in my mind. In one of the repetitions, I randomly heard a woman outside (she was talking to an other woman) saying something that sounded like "devil" I did not heard her clearly but in my language the melody of her words sounded like the word "devil. I mean i was thinking
me:              "oh go to devil'
wonman:   "bla bla - - e-il"
what if she really said the word "devil"?

 

explanation:  thats is just an hypothetical coincidence. the woman may have said something else. I cant continue worrying for something hypothetical. Besides, if Gods wanted to give me a sign wouldn't They make it clear?

 

If Gods know everything about me, They know that I have been suffering with scrupulosity for 4 years. They know that I was not trying to expose anything and that there was not a glitch in the photos. They know that I took photos in order to find buildings and ways where the man may have gone to.

Would They punish a mentally ill person who has scrupulosity? I think not. Would They send bad signs through coincidences after about 17 days in order to tell him about the punishment? In the past, I had trouble with coincidences for a similar reason. I have said many times that I wont accept a coincidence as a sign unless I ask something specific.

and most importantly, do I really believe that IF I was nearer that man, would I really see him vanishing in front of my eyes? I think not. but still, even though I analyze the coincidences, if I just see them with a more generic view, I freak out.

Edited June 17, 2021 by Moser

[Caramoole]

Moser......sometimes you show moments of clarity, often you don't.  The advice here has been, and is, to seek urgent professional support.

So far, I've resisted the urge to moderate any of your posts/threads but it is not helping you at all to use the forum to post detailed explanations of your obsessions like the one above.  I know you say it helps, I know you say you want reassurance but they are massive compulsions that are only serving to worsen your condition.  Our aim is to help sufferers move towards recovery.....not fo provide a platform for damaging behaviours, no matter how much users may want to.

I'm not going to do anything on this occasion but do have to advise that in future, similar detailed posts may be removed in your own interest.

As ever, I advise you to reach out now and source some help.  As Belanna pointed out above, due to the pandemic there is a great deal of help available online which may open up the range of professional support available.  Talk to your family if you can and get some help now

[Ocdsucks987]

Moser I agree go get professional support it will help you out a lot.  Every time you research or ruminate about your coincidences to find assurances you strengthen OCD.  To weaken OCD you have to live with the uncertainty.  Also check out Brain Lock it's a great book.  If you don't want to read the book you can check out the summary which should be helpful as well but the book adds context and I suggest reading the whole book.  Just google Brain Lock four steps summary and it's found at accounseling.org.  I wish you luck on recovery.  

[Ashley]

As others have said Moser, I think you do need to seek professional help for your mental health problems.  I am not sure the level of support you need right now is something the forum can help you with.   I think once you have some help from a professional the forum may then be in a position to help with the OCD perhaps.

I think you may be in Greece based off your text above?  I know of a Clinical Psychologist that understands OCD in Athens, her name is Golfo Liamaki, PhD.  But if you can't access her (I am not sure how she see patients), perhaps your own doctor (GP) can refer you to someone?

 

 

[Moser]

i will search about het. i will be in Athens in 1 month. its my "base" city.

 

by the way, do you know of a psychiatrist known as Nasia Linardou?

[Moser]

I was feeling better but randomly started thinking about my problem with the coincidences as possible bad signs from Gods of the simulation system (if we are in one0:

I started thinking about a coincidence that involved the word "Devil". I randomly feared that I may hear that word from tv. Then, a calming thought popped up that was kinda like "that word cant be used in commerciarls, i can think about it as much as i want without fearing for a coincidence"

i was thinking if God of the simulation arranges the events for synchrconiticies to happen.

 

At that moment, a tv commercial started playing that had the word "signs" it was a cream ad for face.

was that just a coincidence? I worry not only about the word but because some seconds ago, I was thinking that there is no way for a coincidence to happen with the word "devil" because that word cant be said in commercials.

 

what if God of the simulation is trying to tell me that He/She can do anything and arrange for every synchronicity in order to give me a bad sign? what if God thought that commercial may not be able to have the word "devil" but  can have the word "signs"?

Edited June 18, 2021 by Moser