seroquel/ quetiapine

[ACE]

P.S I forgot to add Penn I tried to PM you but your inbox must be full hun :original: .

[Guest penny0305]

I can't take anymore

[lovid]

Please don't do anything terrible Penny.Where there's life there is hope.Don't throw your life away for your teeth.It really is OCD/BDD making you do this.You are just as strong as me.Mine changed tack that's all.I still have terrible days but not with my teeth but it's not so bad when I'm not doing damage.Can you arrange for anyone to be with you all the time?You should go to A& E when you feel this bad.As the others have said we are all with you and worrying about you so don't feel alone.There are people on this forum and OCD action who you can ring too.

[Guest penny0305]

I just can't stop grinding them.I'm trying so hard not to but it's overpowering me. Ever since I had this veneer redone it's got such a bad ledge on the back of the tooth and I can't stop grinding my bottom tooth over it. It's driving me insane.I darent go back to the dentist because they never make it right. I can't tell what's ocd anymore. I know people without ocd would not grind it but it's definitely not right, it didn't have this ledge on it before.how do I leave it alone now it's there. I really feel like my life is over now.ocd has beaten me completely. Cbt hasn't worked and I don't know how to carry on anymore.every day is a living hell and noone can help me anymore.I'm sorry to.go on but I've noone to turn to and I'm desperate.please tell me how to go.on when life is this bad

[ACE]

Penny you really do sound so depressed hun you can get through this hun I know you can we all know it.I know how tough it is for you right now.What exactly have you been diagnosed with hun?,You seem to need your meds really reviewed as well asap judging on how you're feeling hun.I can help you with what I've been through with my experiences with OCD,Depression,BDD,Anxiety etc etc if you like hun? :original: .

[Guest penny0305]

Yes I feel seriously depressed.it's frightening me how much damage I'm doing to my teeth. I can't tell if there really is a problem or I've just become so hyper aware of them I'm noticing sharp bits that have always been there and honing in on then.I have bdd too and that's off the scale too I'm waiting for some blood test results to see if my prolactin is still sky high then ill see the psychiatrist again.problem is he doesn't suggest anything he just says what do you want to try.I don't know, I'm not a doctor, I want advice.he just leaves me on mirtazapine but I've been on it three years and feel worse.problem is I can't tolerate ssris. I just don't know what to do.i desperately want to.stop doing this to my teeth but I've lost.control over it.just want to.sleep forever

[Caramoole]

I can't tell if there really is a problem or I've just become so hyper aware of them I'm noticing sharp bits that have always been there

99.9% probability that OCD is causing the problem. If you had all your teeth removed I doubt your anxiety and anguish would go away.

Whether OCD or BDD it doesn't really matter, it's the disproportionate response/reaction to a thought that's troubling you and causing such anxiety.

If you've been on Mirtazapine for 3 years and feel worse...or certainly see no improvement, why continue taking them? If there was an improvement, fair enough but if there isn't it may be that you'd be better without them at all.

Where are you at with the CBT right now? Is your therapist helping you to work on reducing this compulsion? Urges are awful and they feel utterly compelling, so real but we can resist, even if it's only for a short time. It will cause much anxiety when you first resist but you're not avoiding distressing, unbearable anxiety by doing the compulsions. It's got to be worth a shot, to keep trying to postpone the checking. Any gains you make are a step forward.

Caramoole :hug:

[lovid]

Penny I'm 100 % sure that it's ocd/bdd making you do this.Normally sharp bits we can leave completely alone, that's if we ever even notice.It's a bit like skin picking which is part of the BDD spectrum.Any blemishes etc have to be investigated and "put right".But what does "put right"mean?Absolutely nothing to any one else.As with your teeth anyone who hasn't experienced this would say what is wrong with sharp bits.Are you worried they will break off or is it simply that they will make you feel bad because they aren't right?Is it because you know that you will grind them anyway and just want to get it over with?That is what used to happen to me because I got a period of relief once it was over.Don't forget though that we are with you and any damage you do to your teeth can be put right later.Scientists are saying they will be able to grow teeth from stem cells in the not too distant future so any damage you have done won't matter eventually.Terrible though if you end your life because then no more can be done.Like me you probably have an obsession with the need for your teeth to be perfect because you think they influence the way you look and feel.

[ACE]

Penn you're absolutely right you aren't the Dr&I certainly would think your Dr would have a num ber of things for you to try to help you as there are so many meds out there.Like Cara said it doesn't seem at all the Mirtaz is helping you at all& I wouldn't be doing anything drastic like getting your teeth taken out because it's like with BDD you may feel fine about it at first but then it will start yet again.You certainly are depressed&it seems everything compounded together is what is surely making you feel the way you're.

OK let's look at it this way what have you been on down the years in terms of your meds? Have you ever been on any combinations at all?.The reason I want to see if certainly I can help you as with me I also do suffer from very similar to what you have and have been on virtually every med out there in 15 years & many combinations as well til I found the perfect mix for me right now.So perhaps I'm thinking I hopefully can help you possibly,of course I'm no Dr but I maybe can help you I certainly hope so hun :original: .

[Guest penny0305]

Hi. I've been on several ssris, Prozac, seroxat , sertraline and they all made me.super.hyper, agitated and. Became almost emaciated thin.because they killed my appetite. I've had amiyryptiline which I could tolerate well but.did zilch for my depression and I briefly tried clomipramine. My care coordinator rang yesterday and said she had spoken to the psychiatrist and he's.now saying I have to speak to.a pharmacist first at mental health, discuss med side effects and in his wOrds 'Choose what you want to be on then I'll see you' . I haven't a clue.I'm not an expert.he told me off last time for googling things now he's saying just pick.something like a pack of sweets

[Guest irretractable]

Will they let you take an antipsychotic again? Zyprexa works really well for me, but it does make me really hungry so it's hard not to gain weight. It doesn't elevate my prolactin like some of the others have.

[Guest penny0305]

Sounds like the psychiatrist is leaving it entirely up to me. It's good he's.giving me.choices but some guidance would be good! They definitely won't let me have risperidone again but I think they would let me try anotherAP.does the.zyprexa help.with obsessive thoughts

[lovid]

Penny what do you think you would be like if you had no medication.Do you think it is possible it is making you worse?

[Guest irretractable]

Sounds like the psychiatrist is leaving it entirely up to me. It's good he's.giving me.choices but some guidance would be good! They definitely won't let me have risperidone again but I think they would let me try anotherAP.does the.zyprexa help.with obsessive thoughts

The Zyprexa helps me a lot with obsessive thoughts. I don't like taking it though because of the weight gain. I go back and forth about it. It really does help me though, a lot. I feel like I can breathe again when it's in my system. It actually starts to work in just a few days at a low dose for me.

[ACE]

Hi Penn i agree it's good I think your Psychiatrist is asking you what would you like to try? But also as they're the expert the guidance part is what you need some real assistance ,the Pharmacist shouldn't be upset at you for googling things you're researching and there's nothing wrong with that hun.Maybe a combination of meds may help,I think if you can sit down with your Psychiatrist&ask him/her ok what is in your best opinion I can try see what you haven't been on of course and what could be the next best call to go from here on end.

If you find something that you may like to try speak to your Dr about it of course,I think if you can sit down with them and talk that would be great and say exactly what you would like of course meds to help with calming your anxiety,your thoughts&distress,extremely helping of course your moods&depression,OCD&BDD which clearly seem the obvious distressing problems for you right now hun :original: .

For e.g Seroquel has obviously helped me personally immensely and maybe with you but it does seem on a higher dose,but there are of course others meds to try out there as well.

[Guest penny0305]

I really.don't know what to do. My ocd is changing constantly.I go from obsessing and grinding on one tooth to obsessing over another tooth within days now.it used to be pretty confined and stayed the same so I kind of got used to it.now I, can't keep up with it and it's wearing me out.saw my care coordinator today and I have to wait two weeks for an appointment with their pharmacist to discuss meds and side effects and then wait. Again for an appointment with the psychiatrist. I'm having cbt but no matter how much I try I can't apply the principles to the teeth obsessions and compulsions.I just feel ill now. Everyone keeps saying I look exhausted with black rings under my eyes, my hair is dry and coming out on handfuls which is really upsetting me because my bdd strongly fixates on my hair. I just think I'm weak.I know I'm destroying my teeth with what I'm doing but I feel powerless over it now. I feel like I've tried everything and I'm just getting worse. It feels like I've come to the end of the road.I don't want to die, I want to be normal again but that's not going to happen.every day is hell on earth

Edited April 2, 2014 by penny0305

[ACE]

Penn trust me no 1 is that you certainly aren't weak hun that is absolutely the last thing you're trust me&us hun.You're really in pain with everything&it's so clear to see nothing is about you being weak at all it's not your fault it's the nature of the illness&conditions clearly you're sadly suffering so badly hun.It's not your fault you can't apply the CBT darl it's not easy at all especially when you're feeling as you're.I know how tough it is with everything you're suffering from hun&the toll it's taking on you it's not easy to battle when these conditions are so strong.

I think the No 1 thing is what you need are your meds to get sorted out,try to get your anxiety&thoughts really settled&reduced as much as possible.Do you see your GP Doctor regularly hun?,Are you able to contact the Psychiatrist asap even by email?.I was thinking if you can do that,are you able to see any other Dr immediately perhaps?.I'm just thinking so you don't have to keep on going through this pain constantly is there anyone you can see immediately that may be able to help hun?.Have you ever spent time in Hospital at all Penn?.

I don't know how the system really works in the UK,I'm from Oz(Australia)I've been hospitalized many times due to my depression,BDD,OCD&Anxiety and can offer the best maybe what has helped myself personally.Have you ever tried Abilify Penn? that perhaps may help you I was thinking :original:.Maybe a combination of meds will be good for you Penn as I was thinking as you've probably been on certain meds before in your life with a combination they can work much better certainly&help with getting to the area of your brain for e.g that wasn't able to really be worked through with just being on one medication prior.

Edited April 3, 2014 by ACE

[Guest penny0305]

Hi , no.since.I've started seeing the psychiatrist my gp won't have anything to do with it.I'm scared because they want me now to start reducing the clonazepam I'm on.I've been on it for nine months 1mg a day. I hate taking it and know I'm addicted to it now. It doesn't calm me down anymore but if I try and reduce it my anxiety skyrockets which I know is withdrawal. So now I'm going to have benzo withdrawal added in. I've never been in hospital.it doesn't seem to work like that here.everything is done in the community. I just can't function anymore.I feel so ill. They've said they won't do anything until I've seen this pharmacist in two weeks and then they'll make me an appointment with the psychiatrist.problem is he just sits there looking fed up and bored and I find him really hard to talk to. I don't know what to say to the pharmacist.they are expecting me to suggest meds and I'm clueless. I feel like I've just been left to.suffer like this and I'm terrified. It's getting worse every day

[Guest penny0305]

And now my care coordinator has just rung and said the appointment with the pharmacist has been put back by two weeks because she's on holiday so that's another month before I, get to see someone. I told her how depressed I was feeling and she just said oh well you'll still be having cbt in the meantime.it's useless, I feel like noone is listening

[lovid]

We are though Penny.I worry about you all the time.I know how bad this is for you.If you try to resist how long can you manage?Could you see another Psychiatrist as he doesn't seem te easy to talk to.Could you maybe pay to see a Psychiatrist whilst you wait for you appointment?

[ACE]

Penn I'm really sorry you deserve all the love&care in the world and none of this is your fault,remember hun if you could stop doing this you would in a heartbeat.Like lov said we're listening but you certainly deserve to be listened to by everyone else as well.I was wondering also is it possible for you to see another Psychiatrist hun?.I totally agree with you that you aren't expected to know what meds to choose it's not really your area as you aren't the expert.I do understand like you said they want to give you a choice and that is certainly a positive but you clearly need guidance by the specialists of what to do.

Obviously I'm no Dr hun ,you can certainly try other meds that aren't SSRI's I would say if you would maybe like to try what i'm on but I don't want to of course say try this&it will be the answer to everything of course .That you'll be having CBT is certainly helpful but for you it's understandably difficult because of how you're feeling clearly this isn't your fault at all.CBT can no doubt always help but as very often you need to have the other things sorted out especially.

I've been tried on many combinations myself and even so many meds on their own,combinations can certainly work very well and as you're very similar to myself with what you're suffering perhaps this may certainly help you as well hun?. :original: .

[Guest penny0305]

I really don't know.what to suggest.today has been awful.grinding my teeth like mad.it feels so sharp and uncomfortable it's driving me insane. I had cbt today but she said I've only got a couple of sessions left and there's nothing more she can do. It just feels hopeless.I'm so exhausted all the time I feel physically ill with it. I don't know what to do anymore.I'm worse than when I started cbt.

[ACE]

Penn i'm very sorry to hear how you're going hun,if it was me in your situation I may look at heading perhaps to another Dr you might be better off if you could head in that direction especially as I see you don't feel you're getting very far with your current Dr.If that is a possibility and you can explore that I would try to look at that can you do that at all hun? :original: as long as you're comfortbale with that&you can do that :original: .

[lovid]

Sometimes the cbt people seem more concerned about costs than continuing with therapy until we are better.When you are in the therapy session can you manage to not grind for the hour or so that it takes?