Phil19 Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, PolarBear said: We've told you what to do, repeatedly. I seem to have failed the test then as my wife put an item down on that area affected and I am refusing to use the item. One day it might be an expensive item. Quote Link to post
dksea Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Phil19 said: I believe it will never stop worrying until I move house or something this is how my ocd operates. I wish I could change how I seen this You've changed houses before, yet you keep worrying. Changing houses is not going to be any different this time if you don't change the real problems. You CAN change how you see this, but it means doing the work, hard work yes, but necessary. You HAVE to touch the things that make you feel uneasy, you have to face the anxiety and do things anyway. Yes its hard, yes its unpleasant, but it can be done. 8 hours ago, Phil19 said: I have read people with ocd who will bleach something and think that’s germs gone my issue is thinking something is forever dirty. Bleaching is just a compulsion, the worry comes back for these people too. Your situation isn't different from there's, to them it feels just as awful. But their situation doesn't change your situation. You still have to do the work if you want things to change. Trust me, I wish there was an easier way (medication can help, but you still have to do the work). But you can keep things going the way the are OR you can do what is known to work, what we are telling you to do, what we have seen work and what science has shown can work. But ultimately its up to you. Quote I seem to have failed the test then as my wife put an item down on that area affected and I am refusing to use the item. One day it might be an expensive item. You only fail if you give up. You can make the choice to touch the item, and even to use it. Its up to you. You are in control here, right now you are giving up that control to OCD, but you have a choice. Quote Link to post
Phil19 Posted November 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 So I mentioned how I was worried about the floor as my mum touched the bin and then a bag which was put on my floor. She also gave something which went on my kitchen work top and it also touched my sofa yet none of these worry me too much only the floor? Why would this be or do I need a psychologist to figure it out for me? Quote Link to post
PolarBear Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Because you have OCD, Phil. That's why. OCD is nonsensical. It's crazy. It makes no sense. There is nothing wrong with the bin. There is nothing wrong with the bag. There is nothing wrong with the floor. Absolutely nothing. OCD is telling you there is a huge problem but it is lying. OCD always lies. It never tells the truth. But you keep feeding it with compulsions. Quote Link to post
Phil19 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 On 09/11/2020 at 00:41, PolarBear said: Because you have OCD, Phil. That's why. OCD is nonsensical. It's crazy. It makes no sense. There is nothing wrong with the bin. There is nothing wrong with the bag. There is nothing wrong with the floor. Absolutely nothing. OCD is telling you there is a huge problem but it is lying. OCD always lies. It never tells the truth. But you keep feeding it with compulsions. Sadly I have not been able to change how I think. The area is off limits to me it makes me anxious. You say it shouldn’t worry me but my ocd thinks it is. “Forever contaminated” is something I’ve had for a number of years. I wish somebody could say something to relax me maybe they can but the issue is I struggle to change how I see it. Maybe to others cleaning the floor fixes the problem but my ocd says even removing the floor isn’t enough the whole land is contaminated I know that’s not ideal way to think? Quote Link to post
PolarBear Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 I realize how contamination OCD works. I understand what you are saying. The reason things are so bad for you is that you take the thoughts seriously and do compulsions. You say the area is off limits. That means you avoid the area. Avoidance is a compulsion. Quote Link to post
Phil19 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, PolarBear said: I realize how contamination OCD works. I understand what you are saying. The reason things are so bad for you is that you take the thoughts seriously and do compulsions. You say the area is off limits. That means you avoid the area. Avoidance is a compulsion. Yes I struggle with the compilations to be honest. I have a fear of dying these thoughts pop into my head daily. Feels like I can’t escape these thoughts. It would be easy just to touch the ground or not worry about dying but I find that very difficult? Quote Link to post
PolarBear Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Of course you find it difficult. Welcome to life with OCD. But it has to be done. Over and over. Quote Link to post
Phil19 Posted February 3 Author Report Share Posted February 3 People may remember I worried about my letter box as my mum put an envelope through it and I worried it had been near the bin. I ended up getting a new door but it’s been contaminated already as a parcel man has put my neighbours parcel in the wheelie bin and put a slip through the door so now I am worried about that letter box as he never obviously washed his hands so the germs are on the letter box? Quote Link to post
PolarBear Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 What do you want us to say, Phil? Quote Link to post
Phil19 Posted February 4 Author Report Share Posted February 4 13 hours ago, PolarBear said: What do you want us to say, Phil? Not sure but once something becomes spoiled I can’t change my thinking Quote Link to post
PolarBear Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 We've been over these types of things countless times before, Phil. We've told you what you need to do, many times. You have to start doing it. It is not doing you any good just coming here and telling us about your latest obsession. Quote Link to post
Hal Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Hi Phil, It's a fair while since we chatted, I'm sorry you're struggling so much still. I know at one time you weren't too keen about consulting a therapist for one-to-one support, is that something you've had a change of heart about and been able to do, or are willing to maybe reconsider? Quote Link to post
Phil19 Posted February 6 Author Report Share Posted February 6 On 05/02/2021 at 00:21, Hal said: Hi Phil, It's a fair while since we chatted, I'm sorry you're struggling so much still. I know at one time you weren't too keen about consulting a therapist for one-to-one support, is that something you've had a change of heart about and been able to do, or are willing to maybe reconsider? I got CBT in 2019 ten sessions and one session in 2020 nothing since I am not too keen on doing it over video calls. My second worry is the COVID jab I don’t want it but worry about covid vaccines banning me from society having no life making it all but mandatory how can I deal with this? I worry they will come upto my door to jab me and if I don’t stop me doing anything? Quote Link to post
PolarBear Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 CBT only works if you do the work. You can have 100 sessions and it will be a waste if you don't do the work. You think maybe you are worrying about nothing with this Covid thing? Anyone in authority in your country declaring vaccines mandatory? Seen the needle police going door to door? Quote Link to post
Phil19 Posted February 6 Author Report Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, PolarBear said: CBT only works if you do the work. You can have 100 sessions and it will be a waste if you don't do the work. You think maybe you are worrying about nothing with this Covid thing? Anyone in authority in your country declaring vaccines mandatory? Seen the needle police going door to door? It’s the newspapers remember they said they would test people every day and at work that hasn’t happened yet. The papers keep plugging vaccine passports the last time I heard such things it was ID cards with Tony Blair. I hope I am over worrying but the biggest trigger for worry is the media. That’s been the problem I actually have ocd about needing news. I check it often 10-20 times a day so I know I have an issue. Quote Link to post
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