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taurean

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  • Birthday 27/04/1950

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    Northampton, England
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    Olympics (especially London 2012),Athletics,Swimming,Photography, Astronomy, Archaeology, Antiques Programmes on TV,Art. Choral and Classical Music, Jazz, Fishing, Aerobic Exercise, Gardening, National Trust, Wildlife

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  1. So often we come across people on the bulletin boards here bewailing the fact that they have OCD, and treating it like a life sentence. Well it's not a nice illness to have, that's true. But to answer the question, since around 1% of the population experience significant OCD at some time in their lives, then why shouldn't we only too easily be one of those? So why not me? When we suffer from OCD we will very likely encounter "what if" questions. In fact, once we learn how OCD works in the cognitive side of OCD, we start to associate OCD as being behind those "what Ifs" and that helps us to see the issue as OCD - to "uncloak" it. How do we get to grips with a what if question? Simple. Once we recognise that it is signalling an OCD origin, we look for the OCD false exaggerated or revulsive core belief that underpins it. Then we open it up and show it to be the work of OCD - it won't escape the CBT approach applied to it. CBT turns a "what if?" question into a what is statement, with the guts of the OCD opened up and laid bare, like a dissection. OCD is not a life sentence - it is a common or garden mental illness affecting the masses - and modern clinical psychological methods can help us recover from , or at least manage, it.
  2. I have been so busy this week that I reckon I have already achieved what would normally take a whole week! 

  3. Phil again let's say you don't need to use the thread as a compulsion, to write down all your intrusions here If you carry on doing so it is likely the moderators will close the thread. Let me just say now that carrying out compulsions empowers not diminishes OCD. So we do need to trim them right down, then stop them. One of the commonest forms of compulsion is rumination, and here is a quotation I came across which sums up why this is worthless in tackling OCD. "The word ‘rumination’ comes from what cows do when they digest grass: they chew it again and again before they swallow it, and it doesn’t end there: they then bring it back up … and chew it again. That’s what we do: a lifetime of chewing"
  4. Have updated my profile pic just now using webcam . I year older plus new specs!

  5. For me, the suggestion Phil that you are being controlled is just another theme of OCD - in this case magical thinking. I used to have magical thinking; I was afraid to view the church spire at night in silhouette, for example. Now I was a senior chorister in that church at the time, very comfortable in and around the church where I spent two evenings a week practising, 2 services a day on Sundays, and often a wedding on Saturday in the summer. I was only about 12 and didn't realise this was OCD at work, but nevertheless applied logic and considered the rationality of my fear. Effectively I now know I was carrying out what in CBT for OCD is called a "behavioural experiment". This judged my belief that there might be a negative consequence to my seeing the church spire in silhouette at night against the possibility that I was just worried that that might be true. The experiment showed I was simply worried that it might be true and there was no evidence whatsoever to suggest it might be true. From that moment on the obsession evaporated and no longer bothered me - a perfect outcome. This shows how an individual - and even a 12-year-old boy - can apply CBT principles and make significant change to their OCD thinking and behaviours. Now of course you might say that is not much of a distressing issue against the obsession of being controlled. But I had a couple of other magical thinking obsessions too at that time - fear of stepping on the cracks in paving stones ; and fear of the consequences of not periodically carrying out a time-consuming counting ritual. Having discovered the behavioural experiment CBT method, I successfully applied that same thinking to both of these obsessions, and the compulsive urge to carry them out evaporated. So for me, this method of challenging our obsessional thinking is a massively useful tool and comes with the recommendation of both Roy the kid and Roy the senior
  6. taurean

    Prozac

    Hi awc, welcome. As I posted on another thread from consultation a few years ago with my psychiatrist : On 18/01/2019 at 10:40, taurean said: What I learned from the psychiatrist was she said one needs to be on at least 40mg per day for it to have an effect for her OCD patients, presumably udging from her observations of her patients. This may be an indicator awc. But we all react differently to meds which does make things difficult.
  7. taurean

    Fluoxetine/ Prozac 60mg

    This may be an indicator awc. But we all react differently to meds which does make things difficult.
  8. taurean

    Memory truth OCD.

    The probability that it is all OCD false memory John.
  9. taurean

    Memory truth OCD.

    OCD tries to keep everyone on this never-ending roundabout by demanding certainty. To get off the roundabout we need to understand this is what is powering the motor, accept we can never know, and step off the roundabout when it in due course slows down. How do we beat this demand for certainty? By learning to accept probability (that it is OCD at work) instead.
  10. The understanding is purely that this is how your particular OCD's take on the relationship theme is working. It's nothing to do with you. As I said, and as you say, your love cherishing and faithfulness to your lady isn't changing - what is happening is your OCD is targeting those core values and alleging different. This is a common theme of OCD. That's the knowledge you need. Now, as PolarBear says, it's time to believe this and not react to those unpleasant intrusions. OCD lies, and causes the distress (Disorder). It's what it does. And in CBT we learn what we have told you. Let it go, don't believe or listen to it. Keep doing this and gradually you will overcome this.
  11. Hi William Yes this is a typical OCD issue with relationships. The OCD is challenging true core character values of faithfulness by suggesting the sufferer would kiss another woman. Don't believe it, don't respond to it. Don't try and work it out - leave it be. Intrusions in OCD eventually lose power when they don't get attention. All the best Roy
  12. I found if I took my Citalopram earlier in the day, I slept better - simply because it has a stimulating effect. Likewise it helps to avoid caffeine drinks in the evening. Going to bed at the same time each night, and relaxing before sleep with music and a gentle read of something benign helps. Finally some simple meditation methods - like deep breathing, or progressive muscle relaxation may help.
  13. Our Coral wedding anniversary today - 35 years. We are all loved up and very happy.

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    3. lostinme

      lostinme

      Sorry for the late wishes Roy, congratulations and glad you enjoyed a lovely day :yes: hope there are many more to come x

    4. taurean

      taurean

      We had a great day thanks - onwards and upwards :)

  14. That's so. This is where "The Four Steps" are helpful. We learn to see that intrusions are OCD (step 1 "relabel" then "re-attribute" them to OCD (step 2). Step 3 and we leave the intrusion be and "refocus" away. And in step 4 we "revalue" - the realisation, for me, that the real we is still there with our core character values intact. We aren't bad evil or whatever for having thoughts and urges that were created by OCD - we bear no stigma or responsibility for them. When we learn to apply these four steps on top of the core therapy of CBT improvement should begin, but we must work hard on each step, and not connect with, or give belief to, the intrusions - at the same time weaning ourselves off carrying out compulsions - they only make things worse not better.
  15. taurean

    What should I do?

    I echo that BelAnna. And over the last few years my wife and I have made a number of hospital visits for various reasons. One hospital near our previous home in London had experienced Norovirus so there was a high level of cleanliness and all were encouraged to use the free handgel. What did we / do we do? We obey instructions/common standards re cleanliness and otherwise give no time at all to worrying about it. Same as anyone else who doesn't have your obsession. I didn't answer before because you have I think posted before about these obsessions and really the answers then still apply. But Dksea's excellent post gave me an intro so I took it. Now, going forward, it doesn't matter what new circumstance occurs that triggers these obsessions - the way to deal with them is unchanged, and you don't need to post another topic - just learn to apply what you have already been told.
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