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taurean

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  • Birthday 27/04/1950

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  1. Hi Summer I never had OCD all the time, but it came in episodes. Those episodes could launch out of the smallest little thing, which was annoying. My journey through therapy helped me to break this unhelpful habit. I found that keeping busy helped, so I made sure that my work life during the day, and my social and home life, were busy. Work for me was a blessing as it really suited me, I wanted to get up and go there, enjoyed everything about it, and I wasn't overburdened. My work? providing insurance cover to those needing it. Many of my clients became friends as well, which added to the enjoyment. The work aided my dealing with OCD didn't worsen it. For me, an important element in tackling and managing OCD is beneficial distraction and keeping busy, and work can help tick this box.
  2. Sorry response should be responses This should be OCD intrusions.
  3. It has its uses though, when there is a need to change our thinking and behavioural response to things. We can try all sorts of other things as well, and as I well know myself these can be helpful in refocusing and calming down - but unless and until we change those thinking and behavioural response, we are just making the intrusions stronger and reinforcing the problem. PCD intrusions need engagement and encouragement to flourish - they underpin and strengthen the problem. When we stop that encouragement, and ease away compulsions, the intrusions tend to diminish, and we start to improve. This to me is the essential that every sufferer needs to take on board. If they don't stuck they remain.
  4. To my sister and I, both pretty clever individuals and now in our 70s, the evidence is sufficient. And whilst our expressions of OCD aren't the same the root elements behind the manifestations are similar.
  5. I am pretty clear that the OCD of myself and my sister is genetic. My father and his sister displayed signs of it, and in my sister and my case it started in our childhood, which is pretty common. CBT is all about changing our thinking and behavioural response. It is used for a range of anxiety disorders including OCD. If we change our response to intrusions by learning from CBT that they aren't true, learn to ignore, then ease away from them - and also cut down on the compulsions, OCD loses power and we start to regain control. For me, if the sufferer is not able to work on this then it's the reasons why, and putting those right, not CBT that is the cause. In addition to the CBT I have found mindfulness extremely helpful, because it redirects our thinking into the present, and just the here and now. But it won't stop the OCD in itself, it helps refocus. My own view is that people seeking some magic alternative cure are looking for fool's gold, and might be better served finding help to establish why they aren't accepting that the OCD is false and stopping believing and connecting with it. And why they aren't able to tackle and stop carrying out compulsions.
  6. Which leads us nicely back to my headline - recovery really is a possibility. For many of us, and I include myself in that, a pattern of doing better, then relapsing, eventuate- and we lose faith. So I wanted to get over the point that, if this does happen, then we shouldn't despair. We need to look at how we are maintaining the problem, and how we can eliminate that. Try other things on top of the CBT - in my own case there was no failing in the CBT knowledge, but I needed additional tools beyond it in order to fully apply it.
  7. Care is needed here. OCD is not a temporary disorder. Whatever the reason may be that OCD manifests itself in an individual, it is not going to go away in the same way that a phobia can with sound exposure and response prevention. And, as I know with two of my wife's phobias which I have assisted her to overcome, phobias can have some logic to them, a rationale. Expose that rationale and successfully challenge it and you can beat that Phobia. Tackling the illogical false exaggerated or repulsive beliefs behind obsessional thinking is a much more challenging scenario. And the obsession sits there, churning away- it's not something which only occurs when an event is being confronted, as with a Phobia. The brain is " plastic" - it can learn new pathways, it can stop going over old ones. We have to train it to do this. We have to change our response to obsessions, not react, learn to move away from that thinking, and stop carrying out compulsions. When we really start to do that, our OCD is very likely to ease down and we will be on the recovery path. We might not fully recover, but there is every chance that we may recover sufficiently that OCD is no longer wrecking our daily lives.
  8. These are phobias not OCD. Why? Because it only bothers the two women when they are out in the shops,otherwise it is completely forgotten about. Now my sister does also have OCD - and this is all about focusing onto things then playing mental games with them - e.g., she will look at a lightbulb, then be compelled to imagine taking the light bulb, mentally, apart- then putting it back together again. There is absolutely no point to this exercise, she knows that, yet she is compelled to carry out this pointless mental activity. The obsession is the focus in on the lamp bulb, the compulsion is the mental activity of imagining taking it apart and putting it together again. And this exercise is of no actual value whatsoever, so causes distress as she is obliged to carry out the mental exercise. Another act she felt compelled to do was in a supermarket if she picked up an item her OCD set a rule that she MUST read the whole of the packet before she was allowed to decide to buy it or not. Trips to the supermarket were taking ages. But the good news is that her OCD therapist did manage to help her break free of this obsession and compulsion.
  9. A friend has a big Bbig Phobia which prevents her from travelling in the rear of a car. She is perfectly fine in my passenger seat, but absolutely won't travel in the back. But she doesn't know why, not consciously, anyway. There is clearly a massive fear involved, and there is likely some known event behind this. It is possible the event was so traumatic that she has wiped it from her conscious memory, but it is still there in her subconscious, creating the Phobia. I dare say, if she wanted to have this treated, a specialist could place her into an induced trance, and discover the hidden trauma- I have read about this being done. My sister has a Phobia about travelling on escalators and her best friend has one about going in lifts. When they go out shopping together, and change floors, they each have to travel by the mechanism about which they don't have a Phobia - then meet up again! I think this would be treatable using CBT including ERP - but neither seem keen to tackle it.
  10. OCD can have root in a seeding event, the same as a Phobia. But the Phobia only causes a problem at the time of needing to face that particular situation again, whereas with OCD it becomes an ongoing, disorder-inducing, obsession.
  11. What any one of us needs to do will vary, and the psychological tools may also differ. But the essentials that come with cognitive behavioural therapy will be a part of the recovery process. What IS OCD? It is a mental illness where the sufferer experiences obsessional recurrent intrusive thoughts which they try to " fix" by carrying out compulsions, but which action only worsens and maintains the resultant disorder. The intrusions will usually be false exaggerated or repulsive, and may suggest the opposite to the sufferer's true core character values. This cycle of obsession plus compulsion equals disorder is self-perpetuating, unless we break it. And we can do this, gradually, when we learn why the intrusive thoughts are wrong, not to believe them, not to connect with them. Then gradually wean ourselves off carrying out compulsions. Only when we don't believe and don't connect with the intrusions, and stop the carrying out of compulsions are we going to see those hated intrusions ease off, and our anxiety levels reduce. If we have been through a course of CBT and yet we are struggling to make these thinking and behavioural changes then we need help to reach that process. But it is ALWAYS going to be down to we ourselves the sufferers, to take on board the therapy, and start changing things around. Hope springs eternal - and with the right degree of psychological help and the necessary effort to overcome the sayings of OCD, we really can significantly improve our status.
  12. Happy celebrating the Queen's platinum jubilee to all Britain and commonwealth citizens.

  13. Make no mistake, there really are some BIG achievements underway here. And people have made significant strides forward, both in understanding, then in thinking and behavioural changes. It's lovely to read this thread, it's really making a difference to a number of people.
  14. Brilliant. Therapy can only work if we do what we learn, so much credit to you too 👍
  15. Ma, well done you. Still a way to go, yes but you have come so far, learned so much. I have experienced that stuck loop of thoughts and it would go on and on, even when I slept. But I don't get it now so I know it can be beaten. The first and most important thing is just what you are doing and that you know the thoughts are just thoughts and not to believe or connect with them. I feel pleased for you but also for your Mum and hubbie, who will be so happy that you are moving forward.
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