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  1. Glad it is helpful. Summarising like this gets the nitty gritty over in an easily-digestible way. I wish someone could have done this for me.
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    The best approach?

    I often say we need various tools in our recovery kitbag, and opinions and experiences are invaluable to help us choose them. Great thread, good ideas.
  3. taurean

    The best approach?

    The basics of OCD and CBT can be simplified in terms of precis - see my "knowing what to do" thread - but no way is it simple to put into practice. It is a vicious challenging illness with repetitive, sticking, thoughts and compulsive urges - and overcoming it can be one very long journey. This is so so much why I love this place. Challenges along the path towards recovery are legion - but here we can get, as a collective, right to the heart of the matter with threads such as this.
  4. taurean

    The best approach?

    I call the radar the "scanner" and a feature of OCD is that scanner inside our head searches for the thing we fear. So I spent a long long time, wasted, searching for a mechanism to switch off the scanner. I eventually learned that this was the wrong way. By tackling the underlying OCD core belief - in your case seemingly around getting ill yourself, or others, or specifically whatever - then when I had the CBT working including the ERP disarming the triggers, the scanner had no reason to be, and switched itself off
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    The best approach?

    This happened to me over the weekend. A trailer appeared on TV and the title of the programme was something onto which my OCD would previously have focused (harm theme). But, because during my CBT homework I have learned not to focus in on such things, but rather to observe then let it pass, like any other thought, there was no emotional response, no anxiety surge, no start-up of an anxiety spiral. So that is the goal. Moving on from the initial paraphernalia to just an awareness, not focusing in and not emotionally reacting.
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    Kundalini yoga

    Yoga, meditation and relaxation exercises are all helpful to those suffering from an anxiety disorder. I started including yoga poses and stretches in my gym workout and it helped me to clear and refocus my brain.
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    Length of the narration

    A very good posting from the learned Dksea. OCD makes us feel especially guilty. If we once did something wrong, and the illness decides to focus on that, it will likely lock our brain onto that thing and, continually, exaggerate its importance. Whether there was some wrongdoing, or whether the OCD is making it up, the way forward for us all is to see what is happening, and accept OCD is at work. Then work towards dismissing it. We all need to learn, and apply, self-love. Generally speaking, OCD sufferers do seem to have kind, caring, characters - not at all what their OCD might seek to tell them. A big big part of my recovery process was learning to apply self-love and kindness, and not listening when OCD sought to undermine my core true character values. This should help you Roy
  8. Essentially, therefore, you are tackling the root cause, the OCD core belief, that leads to the urge to carry out the compulsion
  9. It's an urge to carry out a compulsion. You know this is a result of an obsessional thought. Target that thought, look beneath it for the OCD core belief that is generating it. Then see how that core belief causes the fear or threat you feel urged to "fix". Identify the nature of the core belief as false exaggerated or revulsive. Accordingly stop believing it, and keep up this position combined with refocusing away.
  10. Key things for me in tackling OCD are : Accepting we have this mental illness. Realising we have no fault for that, and no-one should judge us so. Around 1% of the population happen to be sufferers. Recognising it's the OCD that makes us feel bad, causes us to feel that its lies, exaggerations or revulsions are true - because it so makes them feel like it. Learning that the threat or fear from the underlying OCD is what evokes an anxiety response, and the urge to carry out compulsions to "fix" this upset. Taking onboard that, in fact, the compulsions give belief to the intrusions, and make them stronger and more persistent. Changing our behavioural response to what we come to realise is OCD starts a timeline towards disarming the intrusions through changed thinking and exposure and response prevention. When we get really good at all this CBT, what would previously have pressed a - false - alarm bell can be gently ignored and eased away. It happened to me when watching TV tonight, but I was able to act as above. When people report in to give progress, and they realise over time they have come to manage things quite well, it's commonplace for them to gauge their recovery in terms of a percentage - say 80%. They can then share here what the 20% remainder is and we can try and shed some light on how they might best tackle it. OCD may for example be in cahoots with another form of anxiety-inducing thinking distortion. There may be ongoing stresses, ERP may not be being correctly carried out, or being done without the necessary level of cognitive understanding. Or there may be an OCD core belief not being tackled so still extant. We can wait so long to get to CBT therapy, but find time constraints when we do only give us the essentials, and miss the specifics. Here our only constraint is the willingness of others, who may be able to enlighten, being willing to get online and do so. Fortunately, at the moment there are sufficient active forum members to provide a pool of ideas and experiences that just might tackle the unresolved percentage of a fellow member's recovery.
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    Length of the narration

    GBG. Also, it's good practice to break the text up into shortish paragraphs. Doesn't have to conform to set grammar - just hitting the return key regularly will do the job, and make our posts a much easier read.
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    The best approach?

    It's a good debate. But, funnily enough, that taking on the belief that your obsession might be true - a common approach by some learned therapists - didn't, and still doesn't, resonate - or work - with me; the knowledge that the OCD was targeting and inverting my true core character values does, and worked. One way to perhaps look at this is as two alternative approaches in our OCD treatment toolkit, both having been sanctioned by trained clinical psychologists. And interestingly, the therapist who taught me that approach is herself a recoveree from harm OCD so knows all about how it is to be a sufferer. And, bless her cotton socks, she elected to train to become a clinical psychologist in order to help others recover
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    The best approach?

    But that "oh that's just my silly obsession" conforms to steps 1 2 of "The Four Steps" - labelling then re-attribution, and is only an initial thing to help acceptance and realisation that the intrusion is nothing to react to emotionally We start to adopt a new learned behaviour of not believing, not responding to intrusions. This doesn't just take the power away from the intrusion - it also nicely undermines the underlying OCD core belief that leads to the intrusions. For me therefore it is great CBT.
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    The best approach?

    Hi Emsie. My therapist told me to think "oh that's just my silly obsession" then refocus away. The beauty of this was that it took the high ground - rather than the OCD doing so ; and it fits in perfectly with The Four Steps - labelling, re-attributing, refocusing. She wasn't telling me to automatically say this after every intrusion - that would be a compulsive ritual - but just initially so I didn't give belief to the intrusion. Another, dear, forum friend helped me refocus away before an emotional reaction by using love kindness thinking about myself (remembering I wasn't bad, the OCD was simply targeting my true core character values) then refocusing into the mindfulness state - purely aware of being in the present in the moment. I became able to do this in milliseconds, as quick or quicker than the unwanted emotional behavioural response
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    I'm having a tough day.

    Everything in your post looks classic OCD. And you are giving meaning to this dreamed-up core belief, leading to the fear and worry that "at some time in the future" he will "find out" and react badly. To me, reading this, it's standard OCD worthless nonsense - it's such a bad plot it's silly to the non-sufferer - but to the targeted sufferer, bonkers though it seems to others, the OCD makes it seem real. Don't let OCD ruin your planning and your future, which it is trying to do. When you accept what is going on and don't believe or give meaning to it, and keep that process up, the intrusions will ease off in power and frequency. You can do this dreaming. Believe in WE not the OCD And keep that going.